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Unused chao Animation

Post by DarkyBenji »

if you search on the internet you can find some beta animation like the hero and dark :
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or chao friends
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But there more
by using cheat engine and found the object data of a chao, i finally have acces to the chao animation ID

let me show you some (NOT ALL) unused chao i found
(fun fact : "unused" walk animation loaded in chao lobby don't actually move the chao for unknow reason)
Spoiler:
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(no he doesn't try to escape, but he have difficult to swim, don't ask me why i give that animation to a swim type chao)
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(this unused animation is used after the dance)
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and yes there even animation of friends chao, i didn't make picture or gif for that, but i will if you want more unused animation

any question ? :blink:
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Re: Unused chao Animation

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This is a really interesting find! I would definitely like to see the Chao friends animation, and thank you very much for sharing these with us. :)
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Re: Unused chao Animation

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Sorry to keep you waiting, but i was creating code for chao world extended
infact i tried to use chao friends animation correctly
alright let me show you more unused chao animation
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when a chao is hungry, there other way to get the fruit
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shake the tree like in chao race until the fruit fall i'm kinda impressed that the tree move when the chao do this action

but there more
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the chao try to climb the tree and call help for get the fruit, kinda awesome isn't it ?

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this one is a shy chao animation, hide behind the tree
Now let's see the FRIENDS chao animation
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My chao clara and Fuzzie are friend and walk together

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chao talk each other i will put more picture about talk chao later

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i don't know if it's a kiss or a hug but after this action, it's a good bye

but you thinks chao are alway nice ? no
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the fight animation is not unused, the dark chao can actually attack but only charater (you) not the chao

and some chao can help other chao
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the cry animation is not a unused animation, but i'm impressed that make chao cry after a fight
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Re: Unused chao Animation

Post by Nano »

Interesting, fighting chao without needing to enter the tournament. I like that idea to be honest. Having chao become friends with one another or hating each other creates a more lively environment. Plus, you could use that to separate chao that fight haha.
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A Chao friends feature could be very great. It has a lot of potential to make the Chao gardens better if they decide to make another Chao Garden feature like the ones in the Sonic Adventure games.
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That black chao going up to that Tails chao has got some game! He knows what's up!
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This is very interesting! Are you able to make a GIF or a video of the unused Chao animations, especially the one where they climb the tree, hold hands and fight?
As for the first GIF with the hero and dark chao, I extracted that clip from SA2 japanese commercial here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0MmVq-k0K8
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If these do exist in the code, does that mean there is a capacity for some to make a patch that would bring these back into gameplay? This is the PC version, right?
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Re: Unused chao Animation

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Crazo3077 wrote:If these do exist in the code, does that mean there is a capacity for some to make a patch that would bring these back into gameplay? This is the PC version, right?
This is pretty much what I was wondering. DarkyBenji, would it be possible to make a mod that activates these animations/behaviors? I can't believe these weren't included! They would make the Garden SO much livelier! I feel like the behaviors are all very basic, so it can get mundane after a while of just chilling with your Chao.
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Mayo wrote:This is very interesting! Are you able to make a GIF or a video of the unused Chao animations, especially the one where they climb the tree, hold hands and fight?
As for the first GIF with the hero and dark chao, I extracted that clip from SA2 japanese commercial here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0MmVq-k0K8
oh ok ! thx for the video
and i will maybe made a video about chao animation
Crazo3077 wrote:If these do exist in the code, does that mean there is a capacity for some to make a patch that would bring these back into gameplay? This is the PC version, right?
CatTreats wrote:This is pretty much what I was wondering. DarkyBenji, would it be possible to make a mod that activates these animations/behaviors? I can't believe these weren't included! They would make the Garden SO much livelier! I feel like the behaviors are all very basic, so it can get mundane after a while of just chilling with your Chao.
well about that,

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i add beta animation (~60 animations added) in chao world extended
and the result is better that i expected, there alot of beta/unused animation (more than 100 i guess) i add almost all the unused animations

by counting the chao animation used + unused, there's ~615 chao animation
that's alot !

once i release the new chao world extended update i will give the chao animation id addresse for cheat engine users
a list of value unused animation will coming soon
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Re: Unused chao Animation

Post by Nano »

So how do these new animations work? Do they just do it randomly during the game or will you have to make the chao become friends somehow?

Either way, very good job adding all this in!
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Are all the behaviour values (required for things like bullies and friendship) all coded and functioning in normal gameplay? Or do we have to individually select the animation to see it in action?
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Fox Boy wrote:So how do these new animations work? Do they just do it randomly during the game or will you have to make the chao become friends somehow?

Either way, very good job adding all this in!
it depend the animation, some animation load randomly, some animation load for a reason, i didn't add all the friends animation because i didn't find a way to "connect" both so they can talk, the screenshots of chao friends it's just the animation that i force to load
Mayo wrote:Are all the behaviour values (required for things like bullies and friendship) all coded and functioning in normal gameplay? Or do we have to individually select the animation to see it in action?
Yes... and no? Yes because we already know that bullies chao hit a character, but i also add some animation that the chao don't want to be pet anymore
for chao friends, like a say before i didn't find a way to connect 2 chao together except one of them must use toy or sing.
i did my best, i will probably change that in the next update of this code if i found a way to connect chao, but for now, you can see a chao talking to another chao that play toys, this is just the beginning

anyway here the list of animation unused are add in the gameplay :
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alt question mark chao
alt sit down
add ~10 Alternate standing pose (dark & hero have 1 special one)
add ~7 chao dream animation
add difficult swim
add dizzy walk animation
add angry walk animation
add sad walk animation
add cry walk animation
add 1 different animation for the flute
add 2 different animation for the trumpet
add 1 animation when the chao finish his job with the tree
add 2 pet animation
add bored chao animation
add 1 different clap animation
add the animation that the chao sniff the fruit before pick up
add 2 giggle animation
add ~7 talk animation
add 1 animation when the chao notice the character after whistle
add 5 animations of the chao wave to the character
add 2 animations of the chao hate the character
add a alt different run animation (it's kinda hard to notice but if you know all the chao run animation, you should probably notice this one)
add 2 "no" animation
add breackdance (must unlock all the toys first)
add different cry animation
add 3 tired animation
add 4 sad animation
add 1 climb animation
add 3 dead animation
add 1 jump animation
add 3 different hold animation
add 1 fall animation
and that's all
here some gif
Spoiler:
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the animation i can't add for the moment are :
Spoiler:
chao walk together
chao giggle together
different scared chao animation (walk backward)
drown chao (yeah chao are actually supposed to DROWN)
chao climb the tree
chao shake the tree
chao hide behind the tree
chao talk stand up
and that's it, the rest are added
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Alright, i'm gonna give you the Address code of cheat engine so you can see the unused animation yourself !

Address : 1A5A25C
Pointer : Enable

Type : 4 bytes

Offset :
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0

this is gonna load the animation of the 1st chao of the garden

for the next chao, just add a offset 0
Spoiler:
ex :
Address : 1A5A25C
Pointer : Enable

Type : 4 bytes

Offset :
b4
34
0
0
0
0
0

this one will load the animation of the 2nd chao of the garden
how it work :
1) enable (force), and put a value (or replace in the right moment when the chao will load a animation)
2) Profit

a still didn't finish the list : but i can give you some interesting value :
Spoiler:
beta hero wait
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sad walk
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chao talk sit down
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chao talk stand up
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beta dark wait
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Wow, what a fantastic find! Why didn't they add these in, I think it would be so much more fun if we had chao intereacting with eachother like this! With normal gameplay, they don't even notice eachother unless they're singing or playing an instrument. They just wonder round the garden, yawning and eating fruit..... but here, they climb trees, fight, chat with eachother, hold hands, hug, all sorts of cool things!!

I would really love to see some more pics/gifs if you have the time, DarkyBenji. :chaohappy:

Also, I am VERY interested in the talking/drowning animations.....
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Re: Unused chao Animation

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hey long time no see ! i'm still working on animation and try the best to add all unused animation into the game
and for now, i'm in the good way :blink:

i bring back some animation into the game that people wanted so much, it's about "friends chao" :chaohappy:
here take a look of the gif
Spoiler:
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the chao can talk each other, the dark/mean chao will attack other chao if they are not happy
of course when a chao decide to attack, the hero will stop him
the garden is more alive than before
now let's take a look of something..... dark
Spoiler:
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this is a drowned chao, the chao don't know how to swim, try to escape the water for 2min but failed and drown
the gray cocon appear which mean the chao is dead
you can still save by enter/exit the garden
somehow this work on chaos chao too, which make not sence since chaos chao are immortal, i will try to fix it
that's all for today, see you in chao world extended v7.1
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WELL THAT LAST ONE WAS ***ing DARK
that aside i'm gonna need to remember to help my sonic chao out of the water now

But these all look pretty cool, and it might be interesting to see my chao fight.
I'd stop it by picking up the one who started it, throwing them into a wall and then probably taking them into another garden. lol
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Wow that drowning animation. :surprise:

I'm a bit relieved that wasn't in the original game (I'd have had so many drowned baby Chaos by now :chaocry: )
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DarkyBenji wrote:
Spoiler:
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this is a drowned chao, the chao don't know how to swim, try to escape the water for 2min but failed and drown
the gray cocon appear which mean the chao is dead
you can still save by enter/exit the garden
somehow this work on chaos chao too, which make not sence since chaos chao are immortal, i will try to fix it
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