(SA2B) Hunger and Sleepiness Relationship

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(SA2B) Hunger and Sleepiness Relationship

Post by Jack the Person »

I had a Chao that seemed to always sleep when overfed it so I decided to do some research into the matter as I could find no other topics relating to this.
Test 01

Test Subject A

Description: New Born Chao, hatched by shaking by Tails in the dark garden.
Appearance: Mono-Tone Orange Chao, normal eyes, closed smile..
Stats: C,B,C,C,D (0,0,0,0,0)
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Test Conditions

Fruit Size: 16
Hunger: 10000
Sleepiness: 0

Test A - Neutual Garden Fruit

04 Bites: Hunger = 7600 | Sleepiness = 342
08 Bites: Hunger = 5251 | Sleepiness = 456
12 Bites: Hunger = 2902 | Sleepiness = 570
16 Bites: Hunger = 0604 | Sleepiness = 798

Test B - Round Fruit (Favorite Fruit)

04 Bites: Hunger = 7600 | Sleepiness = 114
08 Bites: Hunger = 2902 | Sleepiness = 342
12 Bites: Hunger = 0553 | Sleepiness = 456
13 Bites: Hunger = 1000 | Sleepiness = 570


I then decided I needed some times to compare this to so I recorded times for idle movement and eating times at different levels of hunger

Test C - Idle Movement

30 Seconds: Sleepiness = 230
60 Seconds: Sleepiness = 348
90 Seconds: Sleepiness = 584*

*Chao started chasing fruit so I threw it (The fruit) into the water and the Chao followed it which may effect results

Test D - Time Test, 4 Dark Garden Fruit Bites

10000 Hunger = 29 Seconds**
06000 Hunger = 23 Seconds
03000 Hunger = 25 Seconds

**Chao seemed to pause a lot, may have effected results
Results: Inconclusive
Test 02

Conditions

Test Subject A

Hunger: 10000
Sleepiness: 10000
Fruit Type: Neutual Garden Tree Fruit
Fruit Size: 16

Test A

04 Bites: Sleepiness = 10000
08 Bites: Sleepiness = 10000
12 Bites: Sleepiness = 10000
14* Bites: Sleepiness = 10000

Threw away after 14 bites
Results: Eating does NOT lower Sleepiness
Test 03

Test A - Conditions

Hunger: 0
Sleepiness: 0
Fruit Type: Neutual Garden Tree Fruit
Fruit Size: 16

Test A

04 Bites: Sleepiness = 342
08 Bites: Sleepiness = 798
12 Bites: Sleepiness = 1026
16 Bites: Sleepiness = 1254

Other Notes: Hunger kept increasing as more of the fruit was ate, decided to experiment into this.

Test B - Conditions

Hunger: 0
Fruit Type: Neutual Garden Tree Fruit
Fruit Size: 16

Test B

04 Bites: Hunger = 1000
08 Bites: Hunger = 1000
12 Bites: Hunger = 1000
16 Bites: Hunger = 1051
Results: Eating may slightly increase hunger & hunger set under 1000 is set to 1000

Well there you go, all my research! If you have any research or test ideas then don't feel free to put it here.
Last edited by Jack the Person on Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:03 pm, edited 6 times in total.
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Re: (SA2B) Hunger and Sleepiness Relationship

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Did you use the Tiny Chao Garden? It has a bar that shows a Chao's hunger.
It also shows a Chao's mood, which also might have something to do with sleeping.

I'm also not sure if anyone knows exactly what causes sleep either, but I do remember that I used to wake up my Chao with fruit though.
If I fed them like, three, they'd wake up for a while, then go back to sleep. It was like caffeine or something.
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Re: (SA2B) Hunger and Sleepiness Relationship

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No, I used Fusion's chao editor to note these values, however your suggestion that the eating fruit may reduce sleepiness is very reasonable and may be correct.
I'll look into it later performing the same test but making sure sleepiness is at the highest possible value and note how long it takes for them to fall back to sleep.

Thanks for the advice.
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Re: (SA2B) Hunger and Sleepiness Relationship

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As far as I know, there has been no other study into this sort of behavior, and if there has, it as not been this well detailed.
To clarify some points on your experiment:

You used Fusion's chao editor to see the values of hunger and sleepiness, I assume hunger caps at 10,000 and sleep at 1,000, based on your numbers, but I do not know for sure, since I do not have the chao editor. Sorry for my ignorance on that.
Anyway, you then compared the values for sleepiness after eating set amounts, both from normal fruit and favorite fruit, and you compared those values to the chao being idle.
Am I correct on that?
If so, that seems pretty sound, and your results would seem to imply that sleepiness and hunger are related, unless I am missing something.
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Re: (SA2B) Hunger and Sleepiness Relationship

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The results showed some possible relationship between hunger and sleep but may have just been caused naturally. Also, sleepiness caps at 10,000 so even if it did have some effect, it was minor. Anyway I did the test that chaoadventures suggested and got the following results:
Test 02

Conditions

Subject: Subject A
Hunger: 10000
Sleepiness: 10000
Fruit Type: Neutual Garden Tree Fruit
Fruit Size: 16

Test A

04 Bites: Sleepiness = 10000
08 Bites: Sleepiness = 10000
12 Bites: Sleepiness = 10000
14* Bites: Sleepiness = 10000

Threw away after 14 bites
Results: Eating does NOT lower Sleepiness

While writing this I thought of another test: Feeding a Chao with 0 Hunger, I'll do the test and get the results up soon!
Also I added this to the main post at the top for quick reference.
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Re: (SA2B) Hunger and Sleepiness Relationship

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Well, things got interesting in this test:
Test 03

Test A - Conditions

Hunger: 0
Sleepiness: 0
Fruit Type: Neutual Garden Tree Fruit
Fruit Size: 16

Test A

04 Bites: Sleepiness = 342
08 Bites: Sleepiness = 798
12 Bites: Sleepiness = 1026
16 Bites: Sleepiness = 1254

Other Notes: Hunger kept increasing as more of the fruit was ate, decided to experiment into this.

Test B - Conditions

Hunger: 0
Fruit Type: Neutual Garden Tree Fruit
Fruit Size: 16

Test B

04 Bites: Hunger = 1000
08 Bites: Hunger = 1000
12 Bites: Hunger = 1000
16 Bites: Hunger = 1051
Results: Eating may slightly increase hunger & hunger set under 1000 is set to 1000

Again, I put this into the top post for quick referance and have put away the experiment Chao once more. Any test suggestions will be appreciated.
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Re: (SA2B) Hunger and Sleepiness Relationship

Post by Crazo3077 »

chaoadventures wrote:Did you use the Tiny Chao Garden? It has a bar that shows a Chao's hunger.
It also shows a Chao's mood, which also might have something to do with sleeping.
As far as I have been able to tell, the TCG Hunger and Mood stats are completely separate from the CG Hunger and Mood variables. On multiple occasions, I have had Chao go back and forth, under different conditions, and the bars were never consistent. The results would be even less consistent if someone tried using that.

I think the intention behind the tests are very well meant, but I doubt we'll find much of interest. A lot of the variables were given relationships, but many behave very independently. Or their relationships can be complicated patterns that aren't easy to follow. It is easy to not see very useful results.
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