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Re: The Playground

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The library is likely also still in the code, but any ports since the ones on the Gamecube have been lazy. Unless there is someone climbing SEGA's ranks with a passion for Chao, we're not likely to see any of this implemented in a practical sense.
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Re: The Playground

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It looks so cool.....WHY SEGA WHY?!?! WHY U NO MAKE AWESOME PLAYGROUND FOR ALL?! :herocry: :cry:
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Re: The Playground

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Well the playground is for SA2B, we know that much. As far as this topic goes it seems like everybody is theorizing why it never made it into the game, I guess we'll never know. What we do know though is that in the PC version, the collision for the level still exists. However, for some reason the level will not display. We're still working on making this thing possible, don't lose hope. The only reason it's hard to import the playground in SA2B because model edit isn't possible, if it was, we'd have this implemented a long time ago. There is two possibilities, either model edit is suddenly possible (Wow!) or we continue to work our way around the system to fully import the model and get it working. After that, we complete SEGA's work for them by doing what they wanted in the playground except redirect the dead SA2 website to Chao Island.
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Re: The Playground

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ChaoGardenBuster wrote:Well the playground is for SA2B, we know that much. As far as this topic goes it seems like everybody is theorizing why it never made it into the game, I guess we'll never know. What we do know though is that in the PC version, the collision for the level still exists. However, for some reason the level will not display. We're still working on making this thing possible, don't lose hope. The only reason it's hard to import the playground in SA2B because model edit isn't possible, if it was, we'd have this implemented a long time ago. There is two possibilities, either model edit is suddenly possible (Wow!) or we continue to work our way around the system to fully import the model and get it working. After that, we complete SEGA's work for them by doing what they wanted in the playground except redirect the dead SA2 website to Chao Island.
Fixing the Playground to what it was meant to be is impossible unless there's enough code to use it. If it's just a model, then the most you could do is force the game to load it as a Chao Garden (and that has its own problems, as seen with DarkyBenji's work).

Considering that SA2B stripped out all of SA2's online fuctions, I doubt any leftover code for the Playground (if there ever was any) will be usable or exist at all.
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Re: The Playground

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You would be surprised how much leftover stuff there is from the playground.

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I understand it's not code but the text tells us not everything (apart from the model) is completely wiped. It's probably gone in the PC version, which is what I expect, too. But there is a high chance it would still be present in the DC version which we could then port to PC. Definitely worth a shot.
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Re: The Playground

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Um, what exactly is the Playground? Is it something that was planned but scrapped before it could be fully implemented? I literally have no idea.
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Re: The Playground

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Yup, it was a planned feature that was never finished. Same with the Chao Library and the World Ranking System, among other things. If you'd like to know more, give this a read: https://tcrf.net/Sonic_Adventure_2_(Dre ... Chao_World
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I recently watched a video on Sonic Adventure 2's beta, and it neglected to mention the playground, but it did mention the World Ranking System and the Library. Apparently the library was to put stories for Chao Adventure 2 on a Dreamcast VMU...
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ChaoGardenBuster wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:06 pm You would be surprised how much leftover stuff there is from the playground.

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<> result(s) found Chao's name. 
Guardians name. 
Registration date. 
Alphabetical. 
Search swimmer type. 
Search flyer type. 
Search runner type. 
Search power type. 
Swim 
Fly
Run 
Power
Hero Chao 
Dark Chao 
Password. 
Comments. 
This chao has a password. 
Enter password. 
Next page. 
Previous page. 
Enroll your chao in kindergarten? 
Registration. 
List of names. 
Report card. 
Chao Race time(s) 
Skill point(s)  
Trainer point(s) 
You can trade rare toys here. 
Good boys and girls are here today. 
You can leave your chao here. 
If you leave your chao here, friends can take them home and care for them.  
Tell us about your chao. 
We got your chao. 
You can take other chao home and raise it. 
Who would you like to take home? 
You got it. 
Do you want to download this chao? 
Do you want to download this item? 
Do you want to leave your chao here? 
Do you want to take this chao home? 
This is a limited time special item. 
This is a rare chao.
This is a very rare chao. 
This is an extremely rare chao.  
Trade Agreement. 
Agreement.
Specialty. 
You have to leave it for 24 hours, do you want to leave your Chao? 
You're late picking up your Chao.
Your Chao missed you.
A lot of Chao are playing here. 
Enjoy talking to other users while your Chao are playing.  
Do you want to join the Trainer Chat? 
The Trainer's chat room is full. 
Bring your Chao. 
Select a Sever. 
Select a chat room.


I understand it's not code but the text tells us not everything (apart from the model) is completely wiped. It's probably gone in the PC version, which is what I expect, too. But there is a high chance it would still be present in the DC version which we could then port to PC. Definitely worth a shot.
That text mentions a chat room, that would've been an interesting feature to have in the game.
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Re: The Playground

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Goodbye-m8 wrote: Tue May 01, 2018 10:16 pm
That text mentions a chat room
Wait... A chat room? Dang, why did Sega think it was a good idea not to implement the playground? They should have put it in anyways.
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Re: The Playground

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Considering that Sonic Adventure 2 was the Dreamcast's official Swan Song, Sega might have decided to scrap some network-related features simply because they didn't want to support such on a dying console.
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