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Wot is this secret forum?

Post by SwifterTheDragon » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:33 am

viewforum.php?f=21

Even though the topics are locked now, what is this forum doing here, what is it's purpose to exist and why was it even created? Would moderators have some more information on this?

I have also tried messing around with some URL's, like changing the forum numeric ID to a few other numbers, and there seems to be some other topics that I myself do not have access to even view. Are those the forums full of deleted content? Inappropriate content? Super duper ultra hyper mega double triple alpha omega secret staff forums? Can you moderators view them? An example of one of the forums that I do not access to view myself is viewforum.php?f=19

If you can not give a straight answer to some of these I can understand.

Edit: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1 Just reading this gave me my answer.
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by Ivogoji » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:07 am

Mooncow's effort to summon a demonic entity trapped inside this website.

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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by chaoadventures » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:28 am

The first one is full of posts that seem to be designed completely to test forum posting functions and maybe at some point link forum posts to the main site, allowing people to comment on that page.
Basically old junk.

I assume the second one is just the "deleted" topics forum that gets mentioned every once and a while by those who have been behind the scenes.
Moon Jumped Cow wrote:this is cool thanks ! this is cool thanks ! this is cool thanks !
this is cool thanks ! this is cool thanks ! this is cool thanks !
this is cool thanks ! this is cool thanks ! this is cool thanks !
Moon Jumped Cow wrote:hey im a bredda
Truly the pinnacle of posts on this website.
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You've doomed us all.
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by Nano » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:35 am

The second one is indeed the place where we put topics that are "deleted". Typically all topics will go there for archival purposes (i.e. we remove the topic but still have proof you did a no no), but if it's something like, say, a spambot doing what a typical spambot does we'll straight up delete the topic instead of move it to the lock box.
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by SwifterTheDragon » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:04 pm

Well after fully playing around with URL's on a PC (I was using CI on mobile and usually do.) I have found out the following:
Spoiler:
1. Forums with the value of 0, (makes a sense kinda) 14, 15 and 20 (Why aren't these used? Are these entirely deleted forums?) and seemingly any numbers past 37. (Not 37 itself.) That's 3.5 forums that don't really make sense why their ID's are currently unused.

2. Forums with the ID's of 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26, 36 and 37 I myself do not have access to view. I can understand 19 being the "deleted from the public" content, but why would you need 10 forums? Are the other 9 different?

3. Forums with the ID's of 1-13, 21-25, 27-35 exist currently at the time of writing this. (Use this for future reference I guess.)

4. Seemingly any ID higher than 37 seems to not exist currently, and I checked all the way up to 70. I'll check up to 100 soon. This makes sense but I decided to write this.

So mods, what are forums 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 26, 36 and 37 for? Can you view them? What are the reasonings for these existing?

Did forum ID 20, 14 and 15 used to exist?

Here are links to every forum, that exists. (with the exception of 0, 14, 15, 20 and 38.) (Forums I cannot view myself will be listed as well.)

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viewforum.php?f=0
Doesn't exist, makes sense to a point.
viewforum.php?f=1
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=2
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=3
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=4
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=5
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=6
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=7
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=8
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=9
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=10
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=11
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=12
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=13
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=14
Doesn't exist. Did it used to? If not, why does it's ID go unused entirely? If it was deleted, what was it?
viewforum.php?f=15
Doesn't exist. Did it used to? If not, why does it's ID go unused entirely? If it was deleted, what was it?
viewforum.php?f=16
Don't have the permissions to view it myself. What is it?
viewforum.php?f=17
Don't have the permissions to view it myself. What is it?
viewforum.php?f=18
Don't have the permissions to view it myself. What is it?
viewforum.php?f=19
I can't view it, but Nano confirms it is a forum full of deleted content from the public.
viewforum.php?f=20
Doesn't exist. Did it used to? If not, why does it's ID go unused entirely? If it was deleted, what was it?
viewforum.php?f=21
Because you know, it's THAT forum.
viewforum.php?f=22
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=23
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=24
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=25
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=26
Don't have the permissions to view it myself. What is it?
viewforum.php?f=27
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=28
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=29
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=30
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=31
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=32
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=33
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=34
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=35
Exists to the public.
viewforum.php?f=36
Don't have the permissions to view it myself. What is it?
viewforum.php?f=37
Don't have the permissions to view it myself. What is it?
viewforum.php?f=38
Doesn't exist. Seems any higher value doesn't either. Makes complete sense though.
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by CasualCollision » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:59 am

I love it when that place gets brought up. I apparently first learned about it in Retro's thread back in 2010, and made a thread about it in I think 2011, oh 2013 apparently.

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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by SwifterTheDragon » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:05 am

Fair enough, as I am a newer user to have no idea about that until you mention it. I found it myself by seeing who's online, went to chaobot, it's posts and found the topic. Then went to the forum ID of the topic it was located in and looked.

I don't see any other topics pointing out the other stuff I did. I guess mine is the most thorough.

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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by Mamkute » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:29 am

14 and 15 give me "The forum you selected does not exist."
So I guess they were old mod forums that got deleted.

16, 17, 18 are mod forums (removed posts, mod conversations about rules and such, and trouble maker notes)

21 is the inner insanity of Mooncow's locked away.

26 is the mod forum directory.

36 is for funny topics to remember and cherish.

37 is for CI team members.
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by SwifterTheDragon » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:09 am

Ah, my mistake. 14 and 15 also tell me they do not exist, and I stated that I do not have the permission to view them. I do remember now looking at them directly. Editing that now.

I personally feel like 36 could be visually public but not editable. That's just me though. Having 36 is great either way.

So 26 is moderator chat?

Why is 21 even alive to this day

Are the definitions of 16-18 in that given order?

So 17 is moderator rules and stuff like that

And 18 is what to look out for as a mod and the naughty list

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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by eblu » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:31 am

i also vote in favor of 36 being publicly viewable

also i betcha 50 cents that i'm in that troublemaker notes board
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by Mamkute » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:10 am

36 has things which are not friendly to younger users.
By 26 being "mod forum directory" I mean in the same way that the forum is divided into "Announcements", "Chao", "Sonic the Hedgehog", "Usergroups", and "Non Chao Island". It is another one which is "Moderation."

And yes I gave them in order I think.


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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by Tsui » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:39 am

So in summary, you guys just get to keep the puberty topic all to yourselves?
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by Nano » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:57 am

It's a bit like the place we move all topics that need to be removed from the forum, but they're the more entertaining ones.

So... yes.
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by chaoadventures » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:12 am

does it have the spambot that tried to give us "feels" in it too
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by Mooncow » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:18 am

SwifterTheDragon wrote:viewforum.php?f=21

Even though the topics are locked now, what is this forum doing here, what is it's purpose to exist and why was it even created? Would moderators have some more information on this?
Not sure if I've answered this before, but that forum was supposed to be hidden, and stored page comments.
I had a version of the site where on each page of the website you could leave comments. These comments were stored in the hidden forum - of course I had to test to make sure it all worked.

When it eventually was working perfectly, the phpBB forum software I used had a huge code overhaul, rendering all my work useless. The upgrades to the forum I believed were more important than the page comments, and points system at the time. (another one of those forum upgrades will be happening shortly)
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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by SwifterTheDragon » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:39 am

I'll look forward to the upgrades!

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Re: Wot is this secret forum?

Post by eblu » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:01 am

Mooncow wrote:(another one of those forum upgrades will be happening shortly)
"Shortly" (Mooncow time) = 2 years (Standard time)
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