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Post by Yukki 2.0 »

While the titles of "Shining Chaos Chao" on other people are cool, I'd prefer it if that was an optional thing. Perhaps sometime, could regular users be able to change their title? I mean it's just an idea Mooncow could probably implement ya know

But still, could Mooncow kindly do the thingy and let it be customizable? I don't think it would hurt anything and it would be hella nice to have. Maybe it could be set as a reward for having a post count of x or higher? preferably100becausethisaccountjustsurpassed100postsplsicri
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I think this has been asked in the past, and the best argument against it is that the titles would need an approval system so people aren't making their titles anything misleading or inappropriate. It would likely be too much work for very little payoff.
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But then people with "Chao Expert" and such wouldn't be as special. They'd only be half as special.

And there was also that time JmT made a raffle drawing, and certain users got unique names of their choosing, so I feel like they should be offered as prizes, just more than before.
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chaoadventures wrote:But then people with "Chao Expert" and such wouldn't be as special. They'd only be half as special.
Mooncow could make it to where the users would retain their minty green bar, so there's that.
Crazo3077 wrote:the best argument against it is that the titles would need an approval system so people aren't making their titles anything misleading or inappropriate.
Or alternatively, just report it to the mods when a title is inappropriate. As of now I can't name anybody still on CI who would be so immature as to throw in something questionable in their title, so this shouldn't be an issue.
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Unless we can only choose any of the existing chao ranks, this system wouldn't really work nor be necessary
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^Actually, being able to choose from previous rank titles would be interesting (I mean who doesn't want to be an Egg again), but potentially confusing to new users.
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Yukki 2.0 wrote:
Crazo3077 wrote:the best argument against it is that the titles would need an approval system so people aren't making their titles anything misleading or inappropriate.
Or alternatively, just report it to the mods when a title is inappropriate. As of now I can't name anybody still on CI who would be so immature as to throw in something questionable in their title, so this shouldn't be an issue.
The problem would be about the period of time where there isn't a moderator who can change it. Someone could easily make a misleading title that suggests authority and convince users to do things that they shouldn't do. And this wouldn't have to be a public act. If you go to anyone's profile, you can see their rank. So if I were to have an authoritative sounding title, and message someone who may be new or unfamiliar with all the potential staff titles, I could potentially persuade this person into doing something stupid.

While I acknowledge that no current members seem like they would do this, to avoid the risk, we'd either need to make this function tied to a certain post count, or given out on an individual basis by a staff member. But there is always potential for a user to be comfortable with the site and its community, but then later become bitter towards it. People change face a lot, especially over the course of years. How people seem now may not be how they'll be later on.
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Post by Nano »

I don't really like the idea of having a custom title. You already have a line of text for motto, and another for location.

You can always just fill that with a title yeah?
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Playing Devils Advocate here, but I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to A. Disable terms like "admin", "moderator", "staff", etc in the title bar modifier, and B. change the actual staff titles so they're instantly noticeable, such as bolding them and colouring them red to make them stand out. Not to mention the differently coloured status bars below the names/titles that already are pretty good at distinguishing unique titles.

Not that I'm saying I want custom titles or that they'd benefit the site in any way, but it's not like it's not possible.
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In response to your Devil's Advocate, there's a reason I've used the term "misleading title that suggests authority" because even if the terms Moderator, Admin, and Staff are disabled, that doesn't mean someone won't try another term like Leader, Ruler, Boss, etc. There are too many terms that would have to be blacklisted.

And the issue with making staff titles more blatantly unique is that A. someone may not notice before they are contacted by someone posing as staff, and B. given that there is no online standard for staff, there is no way to ensure that even the existing staff terms blatantly indicate a position of control.
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It's just as easy to add other words to the blacklist - Mooncow could even go as far as adding attempts at sneaking around the regular blacklist, such as 4DMlN, B0SS, etc., I'd imagine it's almost literally just adding the words to a literal blacklist in the site's coding.

Also, the entire site uses either a blue/light blue or black/yellow colour scheme. Not noticing the giant red "ADMIN"/"MODERATOR" title text below the bright red boldened nametext isn't the site's fault if it's done right. Of course there's also the whole "there's a specific area in the userlist dedicated to current forum staff members" thing.

You're making it out to be way harder than it actually is. I don't think the site needs the feature in any way, but it's probably one of the easiest modifications to make to the forum currently.
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There are too many potential words that could belong on that blacklist. The risk is potentially endless.

The issue comes down to the fact that there is no way to perfectly ensure that with unique titles that a user will be able to immediately recognize the difference between a staff member and a regular user. It's just an aspect of human nature that isn't avoidable without learning, and forums don't come with a tutorial.
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Crazo3077 wrote: The issue comes down to the fact that there is no way to perfectly ensure that with unique titles that a user will be able to immediately recognize the difference between a staff member and a regular user. It's just an aspect of human nature that isn't avoidable without learning, and forums don't come with a tutorial.
I'm with Nova

We do have a tutorial, we have a help section here and the "Who is Online" automatically tells you who's staff and who isn't. Given that we're in a web 2.0 era still, even kids on a minecraft server know that "Admin" tends to mean someone of very high power as well as moderator.

Now, if we have to make a rule that makes this foolproof and superclear I have to say that the person who was gullible enough to fall for it may just be an isolated incident in the first place.
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Crazo3077 wrote:There are too many potential words that could belong on that blacklist. The risk is potentially endless.

The risk of a new user asking a non-staff member about avatar/signature limits? Honestly, you're making the possible problems out to be way worse than they are. Considering users would have to be active to change their title, even if somebody did sneak through the blacklist, all the staff would have to do is change their title back, take away their custom title option, or even just give them a warning/infraction.
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Could we just do something like this?
  • A moderator makes a topic where users can post if they want a custom name
  • You post your custom name in the thread, and maybe a reason to why you'd want this as your name and why it isn't offensive if it may seem so
  • A moderator looks through each post and approves or disapproves it depending on factors they can post in the thread to respond to the said user
  • Mooncow, Fusion or whoever else has access to the site and can change the names and if the change requires Chao Points like the creation of official usergroups do, then submit the Chao Points.
I mean Fox Boy is a pretty active moderator, taking around 10 minutes out of his day to approve names/disapprove names and possibly change them if the Chao Points are required shouldn't be that hard.

For example, a custom title like "Big Digger Nick" could be quite offensive, as well as titles like "Mod" or "Admin" wouldn't be accepted.
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Post by Nano »

I'd be ok with that, but again, we have two whole lines of text you could put down a title in already.

Your motto could easily be "The King of Chao Island", it just wouldn't be directly under your username.
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