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Chao Karate Opponents

Postby Itachi Uchiha » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:22 pm

I spent a lot of hours to copy their stats with Fusion`s Chao Editor. This Image shows their exact stats. Image :chaohappy: :herocool: :darkblah:
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby UltimaNumber255 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:11 pm

You, sir, must be very dedicated in order to make this! I'd say that's very accurate and a very job well done! At least the estimates. Someday I hope we can find the EXACT stats, or find a way to hack and find out.

I hope the same can be done for the Chao Races someday! I myself was working on it long ago and I should get back into it.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby The Thunder » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:38 am

For having only a mere 500 Fly (Stealth) points, sometimes Flash gets damn lucky. And Crystal having 0? Are these karate opponents eating any Chao fruit at all?!
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby UltimaNumber255 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:48 am

Something I forgot to mention that is worth mentioning, Crystal has a special property where if your Power isn't roughly equal to her Swim or better, you can't even damage her, yet your Chao can have Swim up to the moon, and still take damage from 0 Power. No other Chao has this property. At least in my copies.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby Itachi Uchiha » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:57 am

Right! Crystal either has alot of swim and 0 fly, or the other way around. :darkwalkback:
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby The Thunder » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:06 pm

To put things simply, it's just easier to max out your own Chao's stats and see how things go from there.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby Itachi Uchiha » Mon May 22, 2017 9:50 pm

I have downloaded Fusion`s Chao Editor, and i will upload a revision of this picture soon. Because now i know their exact Stats! :darkcool:
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby chaoadventures » Mon May 22, 2017 11:10 pm

"exact stats"

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that's not how it works

that's not how any of this works


This post is going to sound rude, but oh man, this is extremely hard to pull off under normal circumstances.

For one to obtain the exact stat number of a chao's Power, Swim, or any other stat related to damage, they would need a damage formula.

FURTHERMORE, we don't even have a health-to-pixel ratio to work with.
The exact number of health a chao has is not displayed, and the health bar in the Steam version (the one that allows the use of Fusion's Chao Editor) is most likely stretched, meaning the number of pixels
per each number of health would also be incorrect.

I.e., you can't gather damage values (and thereby stats) due to incorrectly displayed values.

and ONE MORE THING,

The damage formula appears to be like an RPG damage formula, like Pokemon-- nothing is exact. The numbers fluctuate between a maximum, a minimum, and everything inbetween.

And don't get me started on Run.

Gathering info such as this isn't as simple as downloading Fusion's Editor. Heck, it's probably easier to find the file the data for the opponents stats is located in and convert them to something readable.

In the strange case that you have all, some or, just one of the above, please share them. They're arguably more important than the opponent's stats.

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I won't discredit an estimate as an estimate though.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby DarkyBenji » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:37 pm

sorry to ruin everything but

i manage to get the chao bot data from chao karate with cheat engine
i just did 2

Crystal stat
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Flash Stat
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i was just looking Crystal stat because i feel like it's the only chao that doesn't lose a health when you hit it with a low power
(tested with a chao full lvl99 and lvl0 power)

surprisingly, flash is way more powerful, but somehow can lose health from a low power chao unlike Crystal

Good effort ! but you can't guess the perfect :darkblink:
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby Drflash55 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:56 pm

Nice job finding those stats, Darky.

I wonder if you'll continue the research and discover the rest of them in the other difficulties, maybe?
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby UltimaNumber255 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:25 pm

Very nice job! That's exactly what I'm looking for! (But we're still missing Intelligence and Luck since they both play a role in Chao Karate, as well as Happiness)

Yeah, it's weird how if your power is not high enough, you can't even harm Crystal, but you have hive 3375 Swim, and a 0 power can still hurt you. I'm guessing either Crystal has a Flag only she can have, or it could be because she is a Topaz Chao... We should test out if the coat of the Chao matters.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby Itachi Uchiha » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:13 pm

DarkyBenji wrote:sorry to ruin everything but

i manage to get the chao bot data from chao karate with cheat engine
i just did 2

Crystal stat
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Flash Stat
Image

i was just looking Crystal stat because i feel like it's the only chao that doesn't lose a health when you hit it with a low power
(tested with a chao full lvl99 and lvl0 power)

surprisingly, flash is way more powerful, but somehow can lose health from a low power chao unlike Crystal

Good effort ! but you can't guess the perfect :darkblink:

Cool! Cant wait to see the others. :chaohappy:
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby Mayo » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:42 am

I've been wondering about why Crystal had the somewhat magical ability to hardly take much damage (I was assuming it was a glitch of some sort). From memory Angel had quite a bit of stealth? Unless he's been coded in a special way too.
I swear Flash seems weaker than the other two, haha.

Random edit:
Even replicating the exact same Chao as Crystal with those stats (including breed and typing), mine still takes damage normally.

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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Postby UltimaNumber255 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:01 pm

If your Chao can't be replicated, then that must mean they REALLY meant Crystal to be defensive. They're probably like "No, Crystal must be as defensive as possible, so what we're going to do is give her a flag that makes her only take damage if the damage is not the minimum." That's probably how's she's coded, seeing how minimum damage is still quite high for being little.
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