The REAL USA Election 2016 Topic

[Goat]

Indiana as it turns out, was the final stand of the GOP. 60,000's advertisements, looking to stump the Trump have all failed. Cruz and Kasich have both dropped out together after announcing they would work together to stop Trump, to which he then proceeds to win 7 states in a row.

On the blue corner, Hilary the Crook. Before I threw out numerous incidents she was involved in but chose against backing them up on the chance she might not may not get as far. Bernie despite all attempts and states he's won he cannot gain a lead over Hilary, this is not counting the super delegates she's amassed. I hate him, but his defeat was an inevitability I refused to bring up. I would rather people here learn the kind of person Hilary is and reinforcing faith in Bernie by being more or less the only one against him.

As in the false topic, you may say what you wish while others may be free to respond you do not necessarily have to respond.

[Pumpkinium]

canada is too on fire to move to everyone, you must save extra money and move to new zealand instead.

[wic.]

Why did you shut down the previous topic just to make a new one. Are you not able to handle other people vehemently disagreeing with you? Were you embarrassed over the fact that your arguments just ended up becoming strawmen of other people's political ideologies? I don't get this.

[Pufflehugs]

Obama for President 2016

I still stand by that strongly.

[Goat]

Why did you shut down the previous topic just to make a new one. Are you not able to handle other people vehemently disagreeing with you? Were you embarrassed over the fact that your arguments just ended up becoming strawmen of other people's political ideologies? I don't get this.

Hey! I admitted to attacking windmills there if we're going to be completely frank. On that note, apologizing to you over that too. If there was ever a time to take off the gloves when it comes to an opposing idea, it's now. But I'm going to do my best to do it the right way now.

canada is too on fire to move to everyone, you must save extra money and move to new zealand instead.

Why don't people ever say "I'm moving to Mexico"

[Pumpkinium]

^ bc people are thinking about the objectively best country regarding laws and such. new zealand is nice.

[Goat]

But to be entirely honest, I went with shutting down the last topic since that was moreso a "Primaries" topic rather than a General Election topic discussion. Now we're all in a whole new ballgame.

[Ivogoji]

Why don't people ever say "I'm moving to Mexico"

The idea is to move to a better country.

[Jeffery Mewtamer]

it'll be October before I bother making any final decisions, but there's a good chance I'll vote for Gary Johnson again if he wins the Libertarian Nomination again.

[eblu]

the 2016 presidential race is a mess lmao

honestly being a medium right wing i can't put my money on any of the candidates period even though i don't have to worry about voting until 2020

[Dr. Roivas]

ive honestly never been more disillusioned about the state of this country at any point in my life. Like at this point, with Bernie lagging behind as a result of the staggering amounts of voter suppression and **** like that, the general election is pretty much destined to be a "whoever wins we lose" type of scenario

granted, with Hillary we wind up losing way less, but it still feels like I have to make a choice between getting some of my teeth pulled and getting shot

I kinda hate America tbh

[Goat]

I honestly doubt we lose less with Hilary considering the sheer amount of support she's been getting out of Wall Street she has and the amount of political help on the inside she has.

To say nothing on the aforementioned voter suppression she dealt against Bernie supporters, Trump managed to pull through from a lack of a strong enough Republican push against him. Bernie on the other hand was never able to get enough points to surpass her. Having WTA primaries would have helped him immensely. The coming months are sure to get interesting.

[Lamby]

i'm more concerned with the legislature and that is why i have less to lose from voting for clinton besides avoiding a president who is more likely to sign terrible right leaning policies, use a tax plan that is a disaster waiting to happen, and rely on health savings accounts. but i'm told i should like him now because he doesn't care what bathroom i use or insinuate i'm a deluded deviant and he's progressive in comparison to all those time travelers from 1950 that run their circus

she's a means to an end and nothing more and sometimes amputation is too

but i mean if democrats could take back congress eventually sure idc if he finishes his "i am a bored rich guy" bucket list. they're both gonna have a laundry list of shadow interests behind them, they're both corporatists, and i'm aware of questionable choices and policies they both have, so it really is the longterm big picture you want that decides what crony poses the bigger threat

[Goat]

If you're voting for her based on that much alone, well I can't say you're wrong in your decision making. You've clearly chosen the way that prioritizes your existence, in an ideal world I wish there could be someone that could make us see eye to eye on closer grounds.

[Nano]

They both suck and honestly I don't care if Clinton is somehow the lesser of two evils cause she's still as evil and nasty as Trump is.

[KeatonLabs]

All I know is

Hillary's a scumbag

Trump's a scumbag

Bernie sucks but at least he seems kinda nice

Rip zodiac killer, u had a good run.

[Goat]

Why is Hilary Clinton considered a lesser evil?

[EvilPinkamina]

Because Trump has the diplomacy of a bag of bricks, and his policies on using nukes is terrifyingly pro-nuclear war.

If that man becomes president then the conspiracy theorists building fallout bunkers in their backyards suddenly look like prophets.

[Goat]

Even Putin threatened the use of nukes against ISIS, but he wound up not following through on it, so nuclear war with who? If I recall, Trump and Putin actually respect one another.

Reading a transcript of him with Chris Matthews, his policy tends to lean more towards "Last Resort" over nuclear holocaust