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Chao Karate Opponents

Post by Itachi Uchiha » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:22 pm

I spent a lot of hours to copy their stats with Fusion`s Chao Editor. This Image shows their exact stats. Image :chaohappy: :herocool: :darkblah:
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Post by UltimaNumber255 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:11 pm

You, sir, must be very dedicated in order to make this! I'd say that's very accurate and a very job well done! At least the estimates. Someday I hope we can find the EXACT stats, or find a way to hack and find out.

I hope the same can be done for the Chao Races someday! I myself was working on it long ago and I should get back into it.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Post by The Thunder » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:38 am

For having only a mere 500 Fly (Stealth) points, sometimes Flash gets damn lucky. And Crystal having 0? Are these karate opponents eating any Chao fruit at all?!
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Post by UltimaNumber255 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:48 am

Something I forgot to mention that is worth mentioning, Crystal has a special property where if your Power isn't roughly equal to her Swim or better, you can't even damage her, yet your Chao can have Swim up to the moon, and still take damage from 0 Power. No other Chao has this property. At least in my copies.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Post by Itachi Uchiha » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:57 am

Right! Crystal either has alot of swim and 0 fly, or the other way around. :darkwalkback:
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Post by The Thunder » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:06 pm

To put things simply, it's just easier to max out your own Chao's stats and see how things go from there.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Post by Itachi Uchiha » Mon May 22, 2017 9:50 pm

I have downloaded Fusion`s Chao Editor, and i will upload a revision of this picture soon. Because now i know their exact Stats! :darkcool:
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Post by chaoadventures » Mon May 22, 2017 11:10 pm

"exact stats"

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that's not how it works

that's not how any of this works


This post is going to sound rude, but oh man, this is extremely hard to pull off under normal circumstances.

For one to obtain the exact stat number of a chao's Power, Swim, or any other stat related to damage, they would need a damage formula.

FURTHERMORE, we don't even have a health-to-pixel ratio to work with.
The exact number of health a chao has is not displayed, and the health bar in the Steam version (the one that allows the use of Fusion's Chao Editor) is most likely stretched, meaning the number of pixels
per each number of health would also be incorrect.

I.e., you can't gather damage values (and thereby stats) due to incorrectly displayed values.

and ONE MORE THING,

The damage formula appears to be like an RPG damage formula, like Pokemon-- nothing is exact. The numbers fluctuate between a maximum, a minimum, and everything inbetween.

And don't get me started on Run.

Gathering info such as this isn't as simple as downloading Fusion's Editor. Heck, it's probably easier to find the file the data for the opponents stats is located in and convert them to something readable.

In the strange case that you have all, some or, just one of the above, please share them. They're arguably more important than the opponent's stats.

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I won't discredit an estimate as an estimate though.
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Post by DarkyBenji » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:37 pm

sorry to ruin everything but

i manage to get the chao bot data from chao karate with cheat engine
i just did 2

Crystal stat
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Flash Stat
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i was just looking Crystal stat because i feel like it's the only chao that doesn't lose a health when you hit it with a low power
(tested with a chao full lvl99 and lvl0 power)

surprisingly, flash is way more powerful, but somehow can lose health from a low power chao unlike Crystal

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Post by Drflash55 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:56 pm

Nice job finding those stats, Darky.

I wonder if you'll continue the research and discover the rest of them in the other difficulties, maybe?
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Post by UltimaNumber255 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:25 pm

Very nice job! That's exactly what I'm looking for! (But we're still missing Intelligence and Luck since they both play a role in Chao Karate, as well as Happiness)

Yeah, it's weird how if your power is not high enough, you can't even harm Crystal, but you have hive 3375 Swim, and a 0 power can still hurt you. I'm guessing either Crystal has a Flag only she can have, or it could be because she is a Topaz Chao... We should test out if the coat of the Chao matters.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Post by Itachi Uchiha » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:13 pm

DarkyBenji wrote:sorry to ruin everything but

i manage to get the chao bot data from chao karate with cheat engine
i just did 2

Crystal stat
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Flash Stat
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i was just looking Crystal stat because i feel like it's the only chao that doesn't lose a health when you hit it with a low power
(tested with a chao full lvl99 and lvl0 power)

surprisingly, flash is way more powerful, but somehow can lose health from a low power chao unlike Crystal

Good effort ! but you can't guess the perfect :darkblink:
Cool! Cant wait to see the others. :chaohappy:
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Post by Mayo » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:42 am

I've been wondering about why Crystal had the somewhat magical ability to hardly take much damage (I was assuming it was a glitch of some sort). From memory Angel had quite a bit of stealth? Unless he's been coded in a special way too.
I swear Flash seems weaker than the other two, haha.

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Even replicating the exact same Chao as Crystal with those stats (including breed and typing), mine still takes damage normally.

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Post by UltimaNumber255 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:01 pm

If your Chao can't be replicated, then that must mean they REALLY meant Crystal to be defensive. They're probably like "No, Crystal must be as defensive as possible, so what we're going to do is give her a flag that makes her only take damage if the damage is not the minimum." That's probably how's she's coded, seeing how minimum damage is still quite high for being little.
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Re: Chao Karate Opponents

Post by Itachi Uchiha » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:14 pm

UltimaNumber255 wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:01 pm
If your Chao can't be replicated, then that must mean they REALLY meant Crystal to be defensive. They're probably like "No, Crystal must be as defensive as possible, so what we're going to do is give her a flag that makes her only take damage if the damage is not the minimum." That's probably how's she's coded, seeing how minimum damage is still quite high for being little.
I dont think Crystal has a special Code. :darkno: I already confirmed, that the Stamina and the Zeal Bar is equal to your Luck and Intelligence. If Luck or Intelligence is too high, your Chao gets pushed away a lot more than normally. Crystal has something like 3.500 Intelligence. :omochao:
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Post by UltimaNumber255 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:45 pm

I don't think that's the case, because I gave my Chao all 4000 stats in everything, and max happiness (except speed to ensure they can get hit), they still take damage from basically no power. It must be that she has a special flag. For the record, Intelligence effects how slow Zeal drops from being idle, and Luck effect critical hit ratios. Happiness does have an effect, and it makes your Chao recover more Zeal when in a bad mood.
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Post by UltimaNumber255 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:05 pm

I've finally got it! I've obtained every Chao Karate opponents exact stats! Every single one of them! It wasn't as easy as getting the Chao Race stats, but here they all are! It was done using Cheat Engine.

Beginner:
#1: Chaosky 0001 Swim 0001 Fly 0001 Run 0001 Power 0001 Stamina 0001 Intelligence 0001 Luck
#2: Chaolin 0100 Swim 0010 Fly 0010 Run 0010 Power 0010 Stamina 0010 Intelligence 0010 Luck
#3: Chaoko 0030 Swim 0030 Fly 0100 Run 0030 Power 0030 Stamina 0030 Intelligence 0030 Luck
#4-1: Eggie 0075 Swim 0150 Fly 0075 Run 0075 Power 0075 Stamina 0075 Intelligence 0140 Luck (EDIT)
#4-2: Dinner 0075 Swim 0075 Fly 0150 Run 0075 Power 0075 Stamina 0075 Intelligence 0075 Luck
#5: Happy 0100 Swim 0100 Fly 0200 Run 0125 Power 0100 Stamina 0100 Intelligence 0100 Luck

Standard:
#1: Lucky 0100 Swim 0150 Fly 0300 Run 0150 Power 0150 Stamina 0150 Intelligence 0150 Luck
#2-1: Smokey 0175 Swim 0300 Fly 0175 Run 0100 Power 0175 Stamina 0175 Intelligence 0175 Luck
#2-2: Melody 0175 Swim 0075 Fly 0175 Run 0300 Power 0175 Stamina 0175 Intelligence 0175 Luck
#3: Stormy 0250 Swim 0250 Fly 0250 Run 0400 Power 0250 Stamina 0250 Intelligence 0250 Luck
#4: Spooky 0550 Swim 0400 Fly 0450 Run 0400 Power 0400 Stamina 0400 Intelligence 0400 Luck
#5: Stinky 0500 Swim 0650 Fly 0500 Run 0500 Power 0500 Stamina 0500 Intelligence 0500 Luck

Expert:
#1-1: Magic 0600 Swim 0700 Fly 0700 Run 0600 Power 0600 Stamina 0600 Intelligence 0600 Luck
#1-2: Chappy 0500 Swim 0500 Fly 0500 Run 0800 Power 0500 Stamina 0500 Intelligence 0550 Luck (EDIT)
#2-1: Ninja 0675 Swim 0775 Fly 0675 Run 0775 Power 0675 Stamina 0675 intelligence 0675 Luck
#2-2: Skull 0775 Swim 0675 Fly 0675 Run 0575 Power 0675 Stamina 0675 Intelligence 0675 Luck
#3-1: Tin 0750 Swim 0750 Fly 0750 Run 0750 Power 0750 Stamina 0750 Intelligence 0750 Luck
#3-2: Woody 0780 Swim 0780 Fly 0780 Run 0780 Power 0780 Stamina 0780 Intelligence 0780 Luck
#4: Rainbow 0900 Swim 0850 Fly 0900 Run 1000 Power 0900 Stamina 0900 Intelligence 0900 Luck
#5: Wacky 1000 Swim 1000 Fly 1000 Run 1000 Power 1000 Stamina 1000 Intelligence 1000 Luck

Super:
#1: Crunch 1250 Swim 0850 Fly 1750 Run 1250 Power 1250 Stamina 1250 Intelligence 1250 Luck
#2: Wacky 1400 Swim 1400 Fly 1400 Run 1400 Power 1400 Stamina 1400 Intelligence 1400 Luck
#3: Crystal 1550 Swim 1300 Fly 1300 Run 1000 Power 1300 Stamina 1300 Intelligence 1300 Luck
#4: Angel 1350 Swim 1400 Fly 1400 Run 1750 Power 1400 Stamina 1400 Intelligence 1400 Luck
#5: Flash 1750 Swim 1750 Fly 1750 Run 1750 Power 1750 Stamina 1750 Intelligence 1750 Luck

And yes, these stats are set. There is no random range, and I've taken a careful look of where these values are written.
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Post by UltimaNumber255 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:29 pm

Oops, I forgot, Luck is read BEFORE intelligence in the coding. Not to worry, there are not too many Chao who have both different stats!
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